“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” ~Stephen Roberts
Thursday, January 21, 2010
Tuesday, January 19, 2010
What is an Atheist?
I think Madalyn says it better than I ever could...
"An Atheist loves himself and his fellow man instead of a god. An Atheist knows that heaven is something for which we should work now - here on earth - for all men together to enjoy. An Atheist thinks that he can get no help through prayer but that he must find in himself the inner conviction and strength to meet life, to grapple with it, to subdue, and enjoy it. An Atheist thinks that only in a knowledge of himself and a knowledge of his fellow man can he find the understanding that will help to a life of fulfillment. Therefore, he seeks to know himself and his fellow man rather than to know a god. An Atheist knows that a hospital should be built instead of a church. An Atheist knows that a deed must be done instead of a prayer said. An Atheist strives for involvement in life and not escape into death. He wants disease conquered, poverty vanquished, war eliminated. He wants man to understand and love man. He wants an ethical way of life. He knows that we cannot rely on a god nor channel action into prayer nor hope for an end to troubles in the hereafter. He knows that we are our brother's keeper and keepers of our lives; that we are responsible persons, that the job is here and the time is now." - Madalyn Murray O'Hair
If you don't know who Madalyn Murray O'Hair is, I would recommend looking into it. Amazing woman, and fascinating story, with an interesting, unsolved twist. Perhaps I will blog about her sometime...
"An Atheist loves himself and his fellow man instead of a god. An Atheist knows that heaven is something for which we should work now - here on earth - for all men together to enjoy. An Atheist thinks that he can get no help through prayer but that he must find in himself the inner conviction and strength to meet life, to grapple with it, to subdue, and enjoy it. An Atheist thinks that only in a knowledge of himself and a knowledge of his fellow man can he find the understanding that will help to a life of fulfillment. Therefore, he seeks to know himself and his fellow man rather than to know a god. An Atheist knows that a hospital should be built instead of a church. An Atheist knows that a deed must be done instead of a prayer said. An Atheist strives for involvement in life and not escape into death. He wants disease conquered, poverty vanquished, war eliminated. He wants man to understand and love man. He wants an ethical way of life. He knows that we cannot rely on a god nor channel action into prayer nor hope for an end to troubles in the hereafter. He knows that we are our brother's keeper and keepers of our lives; that we are responsible persons, that the job is here and the time is now." - Madalyn Murray O'Hair
If you don't know who Madalyn Murray O'Hair is, I would recommend looking into it. Amazing woman, and fascinating story, with an interesting, unsolved twist. Perhaps I will blog about her sometime...
Mother Theresa: Hell's Angel?
I know that not everyone is a fan of Christopher Hitchens. He can be an ignorant, cocky asshole. However, I can't help but respect an intelligent man who can sport some serious scruff, smoke a cigarette and call it like it is.
Thursday, January 7, 2010
A comparison of Horus and Jesus Christ
| A comparison of Horus (Egyptian Book of The Dead 1450 BCE) and Jesus Christ (New Testament 65-75 CE) | |||
| Life Events of | Horus | Jesus Of Nazareth | |
| Conception: | By a virgin | By a virgin | |
| Father: | Only begotten son of the God Osiris | Only begotten son of Yehovah (in the form of the Holy Spirit) | |
| Mother: | Meri | Miriam (a.k.a. Mary) | |
| Foster father: | Seb (Jo-Seph) | Joseph | |
| Foster father's ancestry: | Of royal descent | Of royal descent | |
| Birth location: | In a cave | In a cave or stable | |
| Annunciation: | By an angel to Isis, his mother | By an angel to Miriam, his mother | |
| Birth heralded by: | The star Sirius, the morning star | An unidentified "star in the East | |
| Birth date: | Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (typically Dec. 22-25) | Celebrated on DEC-25. The date was chosen to occur on the same date as the birth of Mithra, Dionysus and the Sol Invictus (unconquerable Sun) | |
| Birth announcement: | By angels | By angels | |
| Birth witnesses: | Shepherds | Shepherds | |
| Later witnesses to birth: | Three solar deities | Three wise men | |
| Death threat during infancy: | Herut tried to have Horus murdered | Herod tried to have Jesus murdered | |
| Handling the threat: | The God That tells Horus' mother "Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child." | An angel tells Jesus' father to: "Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt." | |
| Rite of passage ritual: | Horus came of age with a special ritual, when his eye was restored. | Taken by parents to the temple for what is today called a bar mitzvah ritual. | |
| Age at the ritual: | 12 | 12 | |
| Break in life history: | No data between ages of 12 & 30 | No data between ages of 12 & 30 | |
| Baptism location: | In the river Eridanus | In the river Jordan | |
| Age at baptism: | 30 | 30 | |
| Baptized by: | Anup the Baptiser | John the Baptist | |
| Subsequent fate of the baptiser: | Beheaded | Beheaded | |
| Temptation: | Taken from the desert of Amenta up a high mountain by his arch-rival Sut. Sut (a.k.a. Set) was a precursor for the Hebrew Satan. | Taken from the desert in Palestine up a high mountain by his arch-rival Satan. | |
| Result of temptation: | Horus resists temptation | Jesus resists temptation | |
| Supporters: | Twelve disciples | Twelve disciples | |
| Activities: | Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. He "stilled the sea by his power." | Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. He ordered the sea with a "Peace, be still" command | |
| Raising of the dead: | Horus raised Osirus, his dead father, from the grave. | Jesus raised Lazarus from the grave. | |
| Location where the resurrection miracle occurred: | Anu, an Egyptian city where the rites of the death, burial and resurrection of Horus were enacted annually. | Hebrews added their prefix for house ('beth") to "Anu" to produce "Beth-Anu" or the "House of Anu." Since "u" and "y" were interchangeable in antiquity, "Bethanu" became "Bethany," the location mentioned in John 11. | |
| Origin of Lazarus' name: | Asar was an alternate name for Osirus, Horus' father, who Horus raised from the dead. He was referred to as "the Asar," as a sign of respect. Translated into Hebrew, this is "El-Asar." The Romans added the prefix "us" to indicate a male name, producing "Elasarus." Over time, the "E" was dropped and "s" became "z," producing "Lazarus." 10 As described by the author(s) of the Gospel of John. | ||
| Transfigured: | On a mountain | On a high mountain | |
| Key address(es): | Sermon on the Mount | Sermon on the Mount Sermon on the Plain | |
| Method of death: | By crucifixion | By crucifixion | |
| Accompanied by: | Two thieves | Two thieves | |
| Burial: | In a tomb | In a tomb | |
| Fate after death: | Descended into Hell; resurrected after three days | Descended into Hell; resurrected after about 30 to 38 hours (Friday PM to presumably some time in Sunday AM) covering parts of three days | |
| Resurrection announced by: | Women | Women | |
| Future: | Reign for 1,000 years in the Millennium | Reign for 1,000 years in the Millennium | |
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| COMPARSION OF CHARACTERISTICS BETWEEN HORUS AND JESUS | |||
| Characteristics of | Horus | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus | |
| Nature: | Regarded as a mythical character | Regarded as a 1st century C.E. human man-god | |
| Main role: | Savior of humanity | Savior of humanity | |
| Status: | God-man | God-man | |
| Common portrayal: | Virgin Isis holding the infant Horus | Virgin Mary holding the infant Jesus | |
| Title: | KRST, the anointed one | Christ, the anointed one | |
| Other names: | The good shepherd, the lamb of God, the bread of life, the son of man, the Word, the fisher, the winnower | The good shepherd, the lamb of God, the bread of life, the son of man, the Word, the fisher, the winnower | |
| Zodiac sign: | Associated with Pisces, the fish | Associated with Pisces, the fish | |
| Main symbols: | Fish, beetle, the vine, shepherd's crook | Fish, beetle, the vine, the shepherd's cross | |
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| COMPARISON OF THE MESSAGE OF HORUS AND JESUS | |||
| The Message of | Horus | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus | |
| Criteria for salvation at the place of judgement: | "I have given bread to the hungry man and water to the thirsty man and clothing to the naked person and a boat to the shipwrecked mariner." | "For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me..." Matthew 25:35-36 (KJV). | |
| "I am" statements | "I am Horus in glory...I am the Lord of Light...I am the victorious one...I am the heir of endless time...I, even I, am he that knoweth the paths of heaven." | "I am the light of the world....I am the way, the truth and the life." | |
| "I am Horus, the Prince of Eternity." | "Before Abraham was, I am" | ||
| "I am Horus who stepeth onward through eternity...Eternity and everlastingness is my name." | "Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, and today and forever." | ||
| "I am the possessor of bread in Anu. I have bread in heaven with Ra." | "I am the living bread that came down from heaven." | ||
Is Evolution Just a Theory?
Creationists argue that evolution is "only a theory and cannot be proven."
As used in science, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.
Any scientific theory must be based on a careful and rational examination of the facts. A clear distinction needs to be made between facts (things which can be observed and/or measured) and theories (explanations which correlate and interpret the facts).
A fact is something that is supported by unmistakeable evidence. For example, the Grand Canyon cuts through layers of different kinds of rock, such as the Coconino sandstone, Hermit shale, and Redwall limestone. These rock layers often contain fossils that are found only in certain layers. Those are the facts.
It is a fact is that fossil skulls have been found that are intermediate in appearance between humans and modern apes. It is a fact that fossils have been found that are clearly intermediate in appearance between dinosaurs and birds.
Facts may be interpreted in different ways by different individuals, but that doesn't change the facts themselves.
Theories may be good, bad, or indifferent. They may be well established by the factual evidence, or they may lack credibility. Before a theory is given any credence in the scientific community, it must be subjected to "peer review." This means that the proposed theory must be published in a legitimate scientific journal in order to provide the opportunity for other scientists to evaluate the relevant factual information and publish their conclusions.
Creationists refuse to subject their "theories" to peer reviews, because they know they don't fit the facts. The creationist mindset is distorted by the concept of "good science" (creationism) vs. "bad science" (anything not in agreement with creationism). Creation "scientists" are biblical fundamentalists who can not accept anything contrary to their sectarian religioius beliefs.
As used in science, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.
Any scientific theory must be based on a careful and rational examination of the facts. A clear distinction needs to be made between facts (things which can be observed and/or measured) and theories (explanations which correlate and interpret the facts).
A fact is something that is supported by unmistakeable evidence. For example, the Grand Canyon cuts through layers of different kinds of rock, such as the Coconino sandstone, Hermit shale, and Redwall limestone. These rock layers often contain fossils that are found only in certain layers. Those are the facts.
It is a fact is that fossil skulls have been found that are intermediate in appearance between humans and modern apes. It is a fact that fossils have been found that are clearly intermediate in appearance between dinosaurs and birds.
Facts may be interpreted in different ways by different individuals, but that doesn't change the facts themselves.
Theories may be good, bad, or indifferent. They may be well established by the factual evidence, or they may lack credibility. Before a theory is given any credence in the scientific community, it must be subjected to "peer review." This means that the proposed theory must be published in a legitimate scientific journal in order to provide the opportunity for other scientists to evaluate the relevant factual information and publish their conclusions.
Creationists refuse to subject their "theories" to peer reviews, because they know they don't fit the facts. The creationist mindset is distorted by the concept of "good science" (creationism) vs. "bad science" (anything not in agreement with creationism). Creation "scientists" are biblical fundamentalists who can not accept anything contrary to their sectarian religioius beliefs.
Wednesday, January 6, 2010
God Loves Football
The Glory for Christ Football League in Georgia grew out of a desire to provide an option for young men who are home-schooled but cannot play in local football leagues.
Below is a photo of the signs displayed on the field where they play...
Check out the full story and more photos here.
Below is a photo of the signs displayed on the field where they play...
Perhaps their priorities are a little bit off. More time spent studying might prove useful when trying to spell words like "academics" and "athletics". Just a thought...
Also...."Be the HAMMER, not the NAIL"? I'm not sure they are sending the message they intended here....
Check out the full story and more photos here.
Famous Atheists
I stumbled across this artist, whom I only know as Bisque, and thought that it was a wonderful idea to showcase some of the more outspoken atheist celebrities. I would love to do something like this, but with average, everyday atheists. Tres cool, in my opinion.
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Tuesday, January 5, 2010
Peanut Butter and Banana....
Most ridiculous videos....ever.
Is this guy for real?! I actually feel bad for Christians...because this guy makes them all look like morons.
Pineapples. How do you explain pineapples? Where's the intelligent design behind a spiky fruit? Where exactly was a pineapple made to fit? Just saying....
Is this guy for real?! I actually feel bad for Christians...because this guy makes them all look like morons.
Pineapples. How do you explain pineapples? Where's the intelligent design behind a spiky fruit? Where exactly was a pineapple made to fit? Just saying....
Problem Solving 101
The following is a note I posted on facebook, and a couple of witty comments that followed...
To: YOU
Date: TODAY
From: GOD
Subject: YOURSELF
Reference: LIFE
This is God. Today I will be handling
All of your problems for you. I do Not
need your help. So, have a nice day.
I love you.
P.S. And, remember..
If life happens to deliver a situation to you
that you cannot handle, do Not attempt to
resolve it yourself! Kindly put it in the SFGTD
(something for God to do) box. I will get to it in
MY TIME. All situations will be resolved, but
in My time, not yours.
Once the matter is placed into the box, do not
hold onto it by worrying about it. Instead, focus
on all the wonderful things that are present in
your life now.
Allow Me to Introduce Hank...
This morning there was a knock at my door. When I answered the door I found a well groomed, nicely dressed couple. The man spoke first.
John: Hi! I’m John, and this is Mary.
Mary: Hi! We’re here to invite you to come kiss Hank’s butt with us.
Me: Pardon me?! What are you talking about? Who’s Hank, and why would I want to kiss his butt?
John: If you kiss Hank’s butt, he’ll give you a million dollars; and if you don’t, he’ll kick the crap out of you.
Me: What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?
John: Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town. He can do whatever he wants, and what he wants is to give you a million dollars, but he can’t until you kiss his butt.
Me: That doesn’t make any sense. Why...
Mary: Who are you to question Hank’s gift? Don’t you want a million dollars? Isn’t it worth a little kiss on the butt?
Me: Well maybe, if it’s legit, but...
John: Then come kiss Hank’s butt with us!
Me: Do you kiss Hank’s butt often?
Mary: Oh yes, all the time...
Me: And has he given you a million dollars?
John: Well… no, you don’t actually get the money until you leave town.
Me: So why don’t you just leave town now?
Mary: You can’t leave until Hank tells you to, or you don’t get the money, and he kicks the crap out of you.
Me: Do you know anyone who kissed Hank’s butt, left town, and got the million dollars?
John: My mother kissed Hank’s butt for years. She left town last year, and I’m sure she got the money.
Me: Haven’t you talked to her since then?
John: Of course not! Hank doesn’t allow it.
Me: So what makes you think he’ll actually give you the money if you’ve never talked to anyone who got the money?
Mary: Well, he gives you a little bit before you leave. Maybe you’ll get a raise, maybe you’ll win a small lotto, maybe you’ll just find a twenty dollar bill on the street.
Me: What’s that got to do with Hank?
John: Hank has certain ‘connections.’
Me: I’m sorry, but this sounds like some sort of bizarre con game.
John: But it’s a million dollars, can you really take the chance? And remember, if you don’t kiss Hank’s butt he’ll kick the crap of you.
Me: Maybe if I could see Hank, talk to Him, get the details straight from him...
Mary: No one sees Hank, no one talks to Hank.
Me: Then how do you kiss his butt?
John: Sometimes we just blow Him a kiss, and think of his butt. Other times we kiss Karl’s butt, and he passes it on.
Me: Who’s Karl?
Mary: A friend of ours. He’s the one who taught us all about kissing Hank’s butt. All we had to do was take him out to dinner a few times.
Me: And you just took his word for it when he said there was a Hank, that Hank wanted you to kiss his butt, and that Hank would reward you?
John: Oh no! Do you think we're fools? Karl has a letter he got from Hank years ago explaining the whole thing. Here’s a copy; see for yourself:
From The Desk of…Karl
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1. Kiss Hank's butt and he'll give you a million dollars when you leave town.
2. Drink alcohol only in moderation.
3. Kick the crap out of people who aren't like you.
4. Eat right.
5. Hank dictated this list himself.
6. The moon is made of green cheese.
7. Everything Hank says is right.
8. Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.
9. Don't drink alcohol.
10. Eat your wieners on buns, no condiments.
11. Kiss Hank's butt or he'll kick the crap out of you.
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Me: This appears to be written on Karl’s letterhead, not Hank's.
Mary: Hank didn’t have any paper.
Me: I have a hunch that if we checked we’d find this is Karl’s handwriting too.
John: Of course! Hank dictated it.
Me: I thought you said no one gets to see Hank?
Mary: Not now, but years ago he would talk to some people.
Me: I thought you said he was a philanthropist. What sort of philanthropist kicks the crap out of people just because they’re different?
Mary: It’s what Hank wants, and Hank’s always right.
Me: How do you figure that?
Mary: Item 7 says ‘Everything Hank says is right.’ That’s good enough for me!
Me: Maybe your friend Karl just made the whole thing up.
John: No way! Item 5 says ‘Hank dictated this list himself.’ Besides, item 2 says ‘Use alcohol in moderation,’ Item 4 says ‘Eat right,’ and item 8 says ‘Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.’ Everyone knows those things are right, so the rest must be true, too.
Me: But 9 says ‘Don’t use alcohol.’ which doesn’t quite go with item 2, and 6 says ‘The moon is made of green cheese,’ which is just plain wrong.
John: There’s no contradiction between 9 and 2, 9 just clarifies 2. As far as 6 goes, you’ve never been to the moon, so you can’t say for sure.
Me: Scientists have pretty firmly established that the moon is made of rock...
Mary: But they don’t know if the rock came from the Earth, or from outer space, so it could just as easily be green cheese.
Me: Not knowing where the rock came from doesn’t make it cheese. And I’m not an expert, but I think the scientific theory that the Moon came from the Earth has been discounted.
John: Aha! You just admitted that scientists make mistakes, but we know Hank is always right!
Me: We do?
Mary: Of course we do, Item 5 says so.
Me: You’re saying Hank's always right because in the list that Hank dictated Hank says Hank is always right. That's circular reasoning!
John: Now you’re getting it! It’s so rewarding to see someone come around to Hank’s way of thinking.
Me: But...oh, never mind. What’s the deal with wieners?
(Mary blushes)
John: Wieners go in buns, with no condiments. It’s Hank’s way. Anything else is immoral.
Me: What if I don’t have a bun?
John: No bun, no wiener. A wiener without a bun is wrong.
Me: No relish? No Mustard?
(Mary looks positively stricken.)
John: (shouting) There’s no need for such language! Condiments of any kind are wrong!
Me: So a big pile of sauerkraut with some wieners chopped up in it would be out of the question?
Mary: (Sticking her fingers in her ears.) I am not listening to this. La la la la la la la la.
John: That’s disgusting. Only some sort of evil deviant would eat…
Me: It’s good! I eat it all the time.
(Mary faints.)
John: (Catching Mary.) Well, if I’d known you were one of those I wouldn’t have wasted my time. When Hank kicks the crap out of you I’ll be there, counting my money and laughing. I’ll kiss Hank’s butt for you, you bunless cut-wienered kraut-eater.
(With this, John drags Mary to their waiting car, and speeds off.)
John: Hi! I’m John, and this is Mary.
Mary: Hi! We’re here to invite you to come kiss Hank’s butt with us.
Me: Pardon me?! What are you talking about? Who’s Hank, and why would I want to kiss his butt?
John: If you kiss Hank’s butt, he’ll give you a million dollars; and if you don’t, he’ll kick the crap out of you.
Me: What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?
John: Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town. He can do whatever he wants, and what he wants is to give you a million dollars, but he can’t until you kiss his butt.
Me: That doesn’t make any sense. Why...
Mary: Who are you to question Hank’s gift? Don’t you want a million dollars? Isn’t it worth a little kiss on the butt?
Me: Well maybe, if it’s legit, but...
John: Then come kiss Hank’s butt with us!
Me: Do you kiss Hank’s butt often?
Mary: Oh yes, all the time...
Me: And has he given you a million dollars?
John: Well… no, you don’t actually get the money until you leave town.
Me: So why don’t you just leave town now?
Mary: You can’t leave until Hank tells you to, or you don’t get the money, and he kicks the crap out of you.
Me: Do you know anyone who kissed Hank’s butt, left town, and got the million dollars?
John: My mother kissed Hank’s butt for years. She left town last year, and I’m sure she got the money.
Me: Haven’t you talked to her since then?
John: Of course not! Hank doesn’t allow it.
Me: So what makes you think he’ll actually give you the money if you’ve never talked to anyone who got the money?
Mary: Well, he gives you a little bit before you leave. Maybe you’ll get a raise, maybe you’ll win a small lotto, maybe you’ll just find a twenty dollar bill on the street.
Me: What’s that got to do with Hank?
John: Hank has certain ‘connections.’
Me: I’m sorry, but this sounds like some sort of bizarre con game.
John: But it’s a million dollars, can you really take the chance? And remember, if you don’t kiss Hank’s butt he’ll kick the crap of you.
Me: Maybe if I could see Hank, talk to Him, get the details straight from him...
Mary: No one sees Hank, no one talks to Hank.
Me: Then how do you kiss his butt?
John: Sometimes we just blow Him a kiss, and think of his butt. Other times we kiss Karl’s butt, and he passes it on.
Me: Who’s Karl?
Mary: A friend of ours. He’s the one who taught us all about kissing Hank’s butt. All we had to do was take him out to dinner a few times.
Me: And you just took his word for it when he said there was a Hank, that Hank wanted you to kiss his butt, and that Hank would reward you?
John: Oh no! Do you think we're fools? Karl has a letter he got from Hank years ago explaining the whole thing. Here’s a copy; see for yourself:
From The Desk of…Karl
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1. Kiss Hank's butt and he'll give you a million dollars when you leave town.
2. Drink alcohol only in moderation.
3. Kick the crap out of people who aren't like you.
4. Eat right.
5. Hank dictated this list himself.
6. The moon is made of green cheese.
7. Everything Hank says is right.
8. Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.
9. Don't drink alcohol.
10. Eat your wieners on buns, no condiments.
11. Kiss Hank's butt or he'll kick the crap out of you.
**********************************************************
Me: This appears to be written on Karl’s letterhead, not Hank's.
Mary: Hank didn’t have any paper.
Me: I have a hunch that if we checked we’d find this is Karl’s handwriting too.
John: Of course! Hank dictated it.
Me: I thought you said no one gets to see Hank?
Mary: Not now, but years ago he would talk to some people.
Me: I thought you said he was a philanthropist. What sort of philanthropist kicks the crap out of people just because they’re different?
Mary: It’s what Hank wants, and Hank’s always right.
Me: How do you figure that?
Mary: Item 7 says ‘Everything Hank says is right.’ That’s good enough for me!
Me: Maybe your friend Karl just made the whole thing up.
John: No way! Item 5 says ‘Hank dictated this list himself.’ Besides, item 2 says ‘Use alcohol in moderation,’ Item 4 says ‘Eat right,’ and item 8 says ‘Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.’ Everyone knows those things are right, so the rest must be true, too.
Me: But 9 says ‘Don’t use alcohol.’ which doesn’t quite go with item 2, and 6 says ‘The moon is made of green cheese,’ which is just plain wrong.
John: There’s no contradiction between 9 and 2, 9 just clarifies 2. As far as 6 goes, you’ve never been to the moon, so you can’t say for sure.
Me: Scientists have pretty firmly established that the moon is made of rock...
Mary: But they don’t know if the rock came from the Earth, or from outer space, so it could just as easily be green cheese.
Me: Not knowing where the rock came from doesn’t make it cheese. And I’m not an expert, but I think the scientific theory that the Moon came from the Earth has been discounted.
John: Aha! You just admitted that scientists make mistakes, but we know Hank is always right!
Me: We do?
Mary: Of course we do, Item 5 says so.
Me: You’re saying Hank's always right because in the list that Hank dictated Hank says Hank is always right. That's circular reasoning!
John: Now you’re getting it! It’s so rewarding to see someone come around to Hank’s way of thinking.
Me: But...oh, never mind. What’s the deal with wieners?
(Mary blushes)
John: Wieners go in buns, with no condiments. It’s Hank’s way. Anything else is immoral.
Me: What if I don’t have a bun?
John: No bun, no wiener. A wiener without a bun is wrong.
Me: No relish? No Mustard?
(Mary looks positively stricken.)
John: (shouting) There’s no need for such language! Condiments of any kind are wrong!
Me: So a big pile of sauerkraut with some wieners chopped up in it would be out of the question?
Mary: (Sticking her fingers in her ears.) I am not listening to this. La la la la la la la la.
John: That’s disgusting. Only some sort of evil deviant would eat…
Me: It’s good! I eat it all the time.
(Mary faints.)
John: (Catching Mary.) Well, if I’d known you were one of those I wouldn’t have wasted my time. When Hank kicks the crap out of you I’ll be there, counting my money and laughing. I’ll kiss Hank’s butt for you, you bunless cut-wienered kraut-eater.
(With this, John drags Mary to their waiting car, and speeds off.)
A Couple of Funnies
I can't remember where these came from...but they amuse me. Click images to view larger.
BEST....BIRTHDAY CAKE....EVER.
I had a talented friend whip up this badass cake for my hubby's birthday in November. She was as excited about it as I was...and hubby LOVED it!
If you are unfamiliar with the Flying Spaghetti Monster...you should click here.
If you are unfamiliar with the Flying Spaghetti Monster...you should click here.
An Interesting Conversation
This thread came about after I watched this YouTube video.
Lindsey2021 posted the comment below, and I responded…sparking an interesting debate about what makes someone a Christian, and whether or not children can actually be considered Christians. Her stance on this may surprise you….
lindsey2021
If atheists truly didnt believe in god they wouldnt be asking for the proof. Jesus performed miracles and proclaimed he was God's son yet people still denied God. If they did the same 2000 years ago what makes you think they will suddenly believe now? The bible says the fool is the one who doesnt believe and these people wont believe unless they FIRST accept the holy spirit. No matter what "proof" you provide, they will reject it because they first havent accept the holy spirit.
sarahbertch
I am a born-again Christian turned Atheist. Your logic does not make sense, as I at one time accepted the Holy Spirit, only to find through research, reading, and logic, that none of it made any sense. Why then, by your reasoning, would I reject your so-called "proof" AFTER accepting the Holy Spirit?
lindsey2021
Yet you are still here still searching for an imaginary God.
its simple. you werent a christian. You never had the Holy Spirit.
sarahbertch
First , I am not searching for any god. I came across this video while watching atheist videos.
Second, I became a Christian at the age of 8, baptised at the age of 13, believed 100% that Jesus was my personal saviour. I prayed daily, studied the Bible, lead friends to Christ. I was a devoted follower, very involved in my church. How can you say that I wasn't a Christian? Did God deny my heart-felt application to his elite club? Your statement goes against everything that the church teaches.
lindsey2021
i stand correct. children are bought up in whatever environment their parents inflict on them whether it be religious or not. So at 13 you basically were a "christian" because thats what your parents were. your young mind could not comprehend the sanctity of religion and we dont understand these concepts and choose our paths until we are fully intellectually and mentally matured. i knew nothing about God and Jesus until my 20's. i believed but didnt understand before that time.
sarahbertch
Why then, would Jesus tell people to bring their children unto him? And why would the church encourage children to accept Jesus if they are too young to understand? At the age of 18 I rededicated my life to Christ because I felt I had a greater understanding of the decisions I had made in my childhood, and I wanted to start a more mature walk with Christ. I didn't start to question my own beliefs until I was 26. Where does it say "Thou shalt not become a Christian until you are mentally mature"?
lindsey2021
it doesnt say that at all. what I am saying is that a child is susceptible to the environment in which he is bought up. this is why you rarely see an atheist child with christian parents or atheist parents with christian children. children dont set their paths and begin to undestand themselves until they are out of their adolescent years.
sarahbertch
Also, I highly doubt that at the age of 20, you were "fully intellectual"....in fact, that term doesn't even make sense. Wouldn't that imply that one has reached their full capacity for knowledge? I don't think that is possible. Life is a never-ending learning process. You are making ridiculous comments to fit your argument.
lindsey2021
you are right that doesnt make any sense. I said intellectually and mentally matured. most atheists live by science am i right? well science has proven that children in their adolescent years have not fully developed their brains or rather they are not matured enough to understand some things such as cause/effect or consequences of actions that a fully developed adult would. this is why we have so much child immaturity.
sarahbertch
LOL! You probably shouldn't use science to try and explain your religious beliefs. OBVIOUSLY children are not completely developed...so are you saying that children can't believe in God, and that all Christian children are only Christians because their parents tell them to? This will make a very interesting argument for me to use to make my case in the future.
lindsey2021
Yes that is exactly what I am saying.
sarahbertch
Both my hubby and I are atheists, and yet, our 13 yr old daughter isn't. We've encouraged her to seek her own path, and she's always claimed that she feels there's a God, and that she believes in heaven and hell, etc. I've even taken her to church myself, putting my own beliefs aside to allow her to make her own decisions. My 15 yr old son is atheist, and has claimed this since long before we ever shared our beliefs with him. How can you explain this using your previous argument?
Shockingly, she never responded.
Lindsey2021 posted the comment below, and I responded…sparking an interesting debate about what makes someone a Christian, and whether or not children can actually be considered Christians. Her stance on this may surprise you….
lindsey2021
If atheists truly didnt believe in god they wouldnt be asking for the proof. Jesus performed miracles and proclaimed he was God's son yet people still denied God. If they did the same 2000 years ago what makes you think they will suddenly believe now? The bible says the fool is the one who doesnt believe and these people wont believe unless they FIRST accept the holy spirit. No matter what "proof" you provide, they will reject it because they first havent accept the holy spirit.
sarahbertch
I am a born-again Christian turned Atheist. Your logic does not make sense, as I at one time accepted the Holy Spirit, only to find through research, reading, and logic, that none of it made any sense. Why then, by your reasoning, would I reject your so-called "proof" AFTER accepting the Holy Spirit?
lindsey2021
Yet you are still here still searching for an imaginary God.
its simple. you werent a christian. You never had the Holy Spirit.
sarahbertch
First , I am not searching for any god. I came across this video while watching atheist videos.
Second, I became a Christian at the age of 8, baptised at the age of 13, believed 100% that Jesus was my personal saviour. I prayed daily, studied the Bible, lead friends to Christ. I was a devoted follower, very involved in my church. How can you say that I wasn't a Christian? Did God deny my heart-felt application to his elite club? Your statement goes against everything that the church teaches.
lindsey2021
i stand correct. children are bought up in whatever environment their parents inflict on them whether it be religious or not. So at 13 you basically were a "christian" because thats what your parents were. your young mind could not comprehend the sanctity of religion and we dont understand these concepts and choose our paths until we are fully intellectually and mentally matured. i knew nothing about God and Jesus until my 20's. i believed but didnt understand before that time.
sarahbertch
Why then, would Jesus tell people to bring their children unto him? And why would the church encourage children to accept Jesus if they are too young to understand? At the age of 18 I rededicated my life to Christ because I felt I had a greater understanding of the decisions I had made in my childhood, and I wanted to start a more mature walk with Christ. I didn't start to question my own beliefs until I was 26. Where does it say "Thou shalt not become a Christian until you are mentally mature"?
lindsey2021
it doesnt say that at all. what I am saying is that a child is susceptible to the environment in which he is bought up. this is why you rarely see an atheist child with christian parents or atheist parents with christian children. children dont set their paths and begin to undestand themselves until they are out of their adolescent years.
sarahbertch
Also, I highly doubt that at the age of 20, you were "fully intellectual"....in fact, that term doesn't even make sense. Wouldn't that imply that one has reached their full capacity for knowledge? I don't think that is possible. Life is a never-ending learning process. You are making ridiculous comments to fit your argument.
lindsey2021
you are right that doesnt make any sense. I said intellectually and mentally matured. most atheists live by science am i right? well science has proven that children in their adolescent years have not fully developed their brains or rather they are not matured enough to understand some things such as cause/effect or consequences of actions that a fully developed adult would. this is why we have so much child immaturity.
sarahbertch
LOL! You probably shouldn't use science to try and explain your religious beliefs. OBVIOUSLY children are not completely developed...so are you saying that children can't believe in God, and that all Christian children are only Christians because their parents tell them to? This will make a very interesting argument for me to use to make my case in the future.
lindsey2021
Yes that is exactly what I am saying.
sarahbertch
Both my hubby and I are atheists, and yet, our 13 yr old daughter isn't. We've encouraged her to seek her own path, and she's always claimed that she feels there's a God, and that she believes in heaven and hell, etc. I've even taken her to church myself, putting my own beliefs aside to allow her to make her own decisions. My 15 yr old son is atheist, and has claimed this since long before we ever shared our beliefs with him. How can you explain this using your previous argument?
Shockingly, she never responded.
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